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  Flip-flop-flip contradictions. Any other religions you know of guilty of these?

  by FatFreek 2005 in

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  jehovah's witnesses are loaded with them, from resurrection of the sodomites, the superior authorities, transplants of human organs, oral sex between married couples, etc etc.. i've been trying to think of other christian religions with contradictions, especially flip-flop flip contradictions with a return to the original doctrine.. please help me out here..

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  FatFreek 2005

  Very good research, Blondie. Thank you so much.
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  Flip-flop-flip contradictions. Any other religions you know of guilty of these?

  by FatFreek 2005 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses are loaded with them, from resurrection of the sodomites, the superior authorities, transplants of human organs, oral sex between married couples, etc etc.. i've been trying to think of other christian religions with contradictions, especially flip-flop flip contradictions with a return to the original doctrine.. please help me out here..

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  FatFreek 2005

  I am amazed that our group of mostly former JWs has not turned up a single instance, of any so-called Christian Church that shows their church has taught a doctrine or teaching which has reverted to an original position -- flip, flop, flip.

  You've done a wonderful job of showing teaching reversals -- contradictions -- but surprising to me, that's it. They mostly, if not all, have stuck to their changes.

  I am amazed that we were (and they still are) actually a part of the very worst perpetrators of this practice.

  Several days ago an older fellow and his wife were working our neighborhood, passing out invitations to the Memorial. As always I welcomed the opportunity to engage in conversation.

  I told him, "many years ago I used to study with you people". Then, I paused.

  He couldn't resist as did all of his predecessors, "What caused you to stop studying?"

  I countered, "contradictions".

  Well, he said, "the governing body is not perfect and they are constantly being shown new light. That means changes. And I suppose there could be contradictions as “The governing body is not perfect”.

  I followed, "I can remember that the Catholic church in 1966 reversed their directive and allowed parishioners to eat meat on Fridays. Then, I can also remember Watchtower publications coming down hard on the fact that the Church had reversed itself on something that they had considered a sin."

  "Fact is", I followed, "the Catholic church has had two positions on that doctrine over many centuries. Compare that with Watchtower's eleven positions on their teaching of the resurrection of the ancient Sodomites – over only 140 years."

  I concluded, "I'm in no way defending Catholics here, but don't you find it strange that Watchtower plays the imperfect card when it comes to their own contradictions but never excuses other religions for theirs?"

  He left with his mouth hanging open.

  I wish I'd had the chance to share the following quote from a 1981 Watchtower, which denies that they'd ever had 360 degree teaching reversals.

  “At times explanations given by Jehovah’s visible organization have shown adjustments, seemingly to previous points of view. But this has not actually been the case.” The Watchtower (WT), 1981, 12/1 p. 27

  There's a fitting phrase my kids used when they were little, "Liar, liar, pants on fire!?

  I wished I could have shared the exact Watchtower pub quotes where they've changed their mind eleven times on their teaching of the resurrection of the ancient Sodomites.

  Len Miller
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  Flip-flop-flip contradictions. Any other religions you know of guilty of these?

  by FatFreek 2005 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses are loaded with them, from resurrection of the sodomites, the superior authorities, transplants of human organs, oral sex between married couples, etc etc.. i've been trying to think of other christian religions with contradictions, especially flip-flop flip contradictions with a return to the original doctrine.. please help me out here..

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  FatFreek 2005

  Where's Tony when he's needed for another errand?
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  Flip-flop-flip contradictions. Any other religions you know of guilty of these?

  by FatFreek 2005 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses are loaded with them, from resurrection of the sodomites, the superior authorities, transplants of human organs, oral sex between married couples, etc etc.. i've been trying to think of other christian religions with contradictions, especially flip-flop flip contradictions with a return to the original doctrine.. please help me out here..

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  FatFreek 2005

  Thanks Atlantis and Slim. I wasn't aware of any of those short of Mormon plural marriages. Of interest, Mormons abandoned their practice in 1897. JWs, 50 years later in 1947.

  Yes, the flip flop flips are probably going to be hard to find.

  So far as we know Watchtower has to be awarded the Blue Ribbon .
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  Flip-flop-flip contradictions. Any other religions you know of guilty of these?

  by FatFreek 2005 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses are loaded with them, from resurrection of the sodomites, the superior authorities, transplants of human organs, oral sex between married couples, etc etc.. i've been trying to think of other christian religions with contradictions, especially flip-flop flip contradictions with a return to the original doctrine.. please help me out here..

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  FatFreek 2005

  Jehovah's Witnesses are loaded with them, from resurrection of the sodomites, the superior authorities, transplants of human organs, oral sex between married couples, etc etc.

  I've been trying to think of other Christian religions with contradictions, especially flip-flop flip contradictions with a return to the original Doctrine.

  Please help me out here.
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  Need tips to make Youtube video -- software, hardware?

  by FatFreek 2005 in

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  i'm thinking of making a video.

  i see there is an explosion of them recently by ex-jws which i believe is a good thing.. if you've done it, what easy-to-learn and use app did you use?

  how much did it cost?

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  FatFreek 2005

  Thank you Jehalapeno
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  Need tips to make Youtube video -- software, hardware?

  by FatFreek 2005 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i'm thinking of making a video.

  i see there is an explosion of them recently by ex-jws which i believe is a good thing.. if you've done it, what easy-to-learn and use app did you use?

  how much did it cost?

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  FatFreek 2005

  Thanks JW Answers and Simon.
  
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  Need tips to make Youtube video -- software, hardware?

  by FatFreek 2005 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i'm thinking of making a video.

  i see there is an explosion of them recently by ex-jws which i believe is a good thing.. if you've done it, what easy-to-learn and use app did you use?

  how much did it cost?

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  FatFreek 2005

  Sorry about that dub stepped. I have to attribute my senior moment to not being Spirit directed likeyou-know-who. Thanks for being long-suffering.

  Len
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  Need tips to make Youtube video -- software, hardware?

  by FatFreek 2005 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i'm thinking of making a video.

  i see there is an explosion of them recently by ex-jws which i believe is a good thing.. if you've done it, what easy-to-learn and use app did you use?

  how much did it cost?

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  FatFreek 2005

  I'm thinking of making a video. I see there is an explosion of them recently by ex-JWs which I believe is a good thing.

  If you've done it, what easy-to-learn and use app did you use? How much did it cost? Did you use your phone video or your tablet video or a special camera video capability?

  Len
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  Atlantis--Do You Have The Mega File?

  by Atlantis in

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  yes we have the mega file.

  we posted it some time back but the older file only goes to 2018. this mega folder goes to 2019.. i will probably have to upload it again because this link will only be good for 24 hours.

  if i am stuffing my face with carrot cake, then petra or vulcan will provide another link.

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  FatFreek 2005

  I'd rather have a piece of carrot cake and a cup of coffee